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Hello Cat 13 owners
Recently my Dash AC compressor pulley bearing failed. I’ve replaced the pulley but the compressor seal may have been damaged as well.
There is not a data plate on the compressor.
If anyone with a Cat 13 Acert engine can send me the data plate info from the dash air AC Compressor I would appreciate it.
I have the 8 groove serpentine belt system.
Thank you!!!
JK
Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.
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Just curious why you think the seal is bad. Unless you just wiped down the compressor, there should be refrigerant oil all around that seal. That is a york style compressor. The shaft seal is very easy to service. I would trouble shoot the system before condemning the compressor. The york compressor is not known for failure other than the shaft seal.
That style of compressor has been around since the mid 60's. If you need one, just take the lines off and see what style fittings (tube oring, roto lock, etc) it has. Any auto parts store will have one.
Phil & Sharon
1999 511 41.5
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There is little to no Freon in the system now. It worked before the clutch/pulley bearing failed. I’m assuming the Freon leaked out the seal.
I was able to clean things up but...
Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.
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Yes looks like a lot of heat on the seal. If you have a leak detector try to find a leak at the seal. Make sure there is enough pressure in the system.
As easy as that seal is to replace, you might replace it while it is apart. Then pull a vacuum and see if it will hold vacuum.
If you feel a compressor is necessary, they are very reasonably priced. It will come without the pulley assy. The pulley/clutch assy. will probably be more expensive that the compressor.
Phil
Phil & Sharon
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I wish I had the compressor part number.
Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.
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these are otr truck compressors. very common. i would take it to a truck parts place that specializes in compressors and i bet they can match it.
i think you are overthinking this. something i do most of the time....ha
tom
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Just toss the old one on the
Counter
Say match this with a working model
Georgeb
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I ordered a new unit. Should have it next week along with a new drier and O rings.
Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.
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Here’s what I have learned about the 2005 Newell Coach Caterpillar C-13 Air Conditioning compressor, compressor clutch, belt, and drier.
Compressor:
York Style ET 210L-25150
Tube-O Connectors
Clutch:
Mysore/Bergstrom Clutch 1380007 1000139302
York/Techumseh OEM NO: 024-25171
Single wire
Drier:
Four Seasons 33317
8 Groove HD Serpentine Belt:
Dayco Gold Label 5080600 8PK1525
Accessories:
Compressor Tube-O “O Rings”: 16-4210, A/C Hose O-Ring - #10
Compressor Shaft Seal Kit 03-5336A
JK
Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.
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Parts are in:
Still waiting on o rings...
Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.