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New toilet
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The original black toilet had bad water stains and also its pneumatic so we decided to put in a macerator toilet, we rebuilt the air part of the old toilet and going to remove all the guts from the old black toilet and willing to give to a guru plus postage if anyone needs these parts although Richard has first dibs if he want them he's local. The old bowl will be in the dumpster, there is a good black ceramic lid. 

After removing the toilet the first thing I did and clean up the pneumatic part and simplifying the system going to the 12v pump, the prior owners just put screws into the 1/4" line and left it at that. 

Installing the new unit was easy but the foot print is much smaller than the old toilet although its the same height its a shorter bowl, this leaves us with some interior decorating to tend to to cover up where the big toilet sat and also there is no tank area like on the old so it sticks out from the wall to much. 

I tapped into the aquahot main 12v feed for the fresh water pump and also the macerator control, I went with the fresh water pump rather than a solenoid valve to turn on and off the water just so you will not have to have a pressurized line all the time to use the toilet, seemed safer this way. 

I used 1/2 pex as it was limber enough to get into the 3/4 female NPT fitting at the top of the tank where the aquahot bay has a fill for the passenger side, this was a good place to suck from the bottom of the tank, also I put in a check valve to prevent backflow and keep the pump primed all the time. 
Overall it took half a day and 6 trips to the little hardware store here at Cedar Key FL. Today is tidy up day.

If you notice some extra pex and rubber hoses, I've been experimenting with a direct diesel water heater to make an on demand water heater.


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1999 45'  #504 "Magnolia"
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1996 40 XL Prevost Marathon 
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#2

That one good thing about the private toilet room- you can close the door and nobody can run a punch list on your work. Just sayin

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#3

I took Ernies advice and went with a Dometic 320. Feels like a standard household toilet with no complications. Mine drops straight to the black tank so I didn't need a macerator. My coach used to have a Microphor toilet that was removed and replaced with a short sealand toilet prior to my ownership. I removed that for the Dometic 320 elongated.


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--Simon
1993 8v92TA #312
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#4

Simon, order and stock a replacement spring for the 320. I have had a 320 for years and love their operation.

Over time, the spring will break which returns the foot valve to closed. Even though the return is not working, the 320 is still good, just use your foot to lift the lever closing the toilet. Then replace the spring as you have time.

Unlike other brands, spring replacement can be done without removing the toilet, easy peasy.

Rudy Legett
2003 Foretravel U320 4010
ISM11 450 hp Allison 4000R
Factory Authorized Aqua Hot Repair Center
Southeast Texas Area
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#5

Simon I like the simplicity of your toilet wish we could have gotten the elongated but couldn't find one in stock in the US in almond.

1999 45'  #504 "Magnolia"
Gravette, Arkansas
1996 40 XL Prevost Marathon 
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(02-05-2023, 12:12 PM)Jack Houpe Wrote:  Simon I like the simplicity of your toilet wish we could have gotten the elongated but couldn't find one in stock in the US in almond.

I understand. Since I was remodeling the whole coach, I went with easy to find colors. I knew the toilet would be hard to find in anything but white although last year, almond was still available.

(02-05-2023, 09:33 AM)Trainer Wrote:  Simon, order and stock a replacement spring for the 320.  I have had a 320 for years and love their operation.

Over time, the spring will break which returns the foot valve to closed.  Even though the return is not working, the 320 is still good, just use your foot to lift the lever closing the toilet. Then replace the spring as you have time.

Unlike other brands, spring replacement can be done without removing the toilet, easy peasy.

Thanks for the tip Rudy! Do you know if it is possible to adjust the pedal to allow a little more press to fill the bowl before the opening of the dump? I have maybe 1/2" or less of play to fill the bowl and one more mm and it starts to dump the water.

--Simon
1993 8v92TA #312
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#7

Try lifting up on the foot lever to add more water to the bowl.

Forest & Cindy Olivier
1987 log cabin
2011 Roadtrek C210P
PO 1999 Foretravel 36'
1998 Newell 45' #486 

1993 Newell 39' #337 
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#8

Nice Job Jack!

We replaced our Master Bath toilet with a Saniflush macerating unit and had the same issue with the smaller foot print with the new toilet.  There was some tile work that needed covering up.....take a look at post #6 on this thread http://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?ti...ing+toilet.  I used a black 1/2 inch marine starboard to make an adapter plate.  Also, made up some boxes to cover the plumbing to the left and right of the bowl.  How long are you in the FL area?

Steve & Doris Denton
45' Newell #525, Bath & Half....sold
37' Country Coach, Tribute....Cat C9, 400 hp
2014 Honda CRV Toad
Summerfield, FL
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Excellent idea Steve I think I will follow your lead on this while here in Florida, should be able to find some 1/2"-1" black starboard here in the area. Might even build some shelves out of it for the back wall. Nice work, did you use a cnc to cut that?

We are here in Cedar Key FL for 5 more weeks or till they kick us out. Had a little upset on our vacation which really slowed our progress of refurbishing the coach, a 40+ friend of my wife was on a cruise ship out of Miami and decided to stop by and say hello and that would have been fine if her husband wasn't sick but he was and I quickly got them out of our coach but not soon enough and we both caught RSV, a respiratory virus which is pretty hard on old people. Kathleen handled it better than I, I laid on the couch for 2 weeks and the virus passed early on but left me with a respiratory infection which turned into pneumonia. 3 days of going to the clinic for intravenous transfusion of anti biotics and steroids' and I'm back but 3 weeks of no progress. I would have happily bought them both a motel room on their way home it would have been cheaper.

1999 45'  #504 "Magnolia"
Gravette, Arkansas
1996 40 XL Prevost Marathon 
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Wow, sorry to hear that Jack. That really sucks. Glad you are getting over it. I guess we need to be thankful as My wife and I had covid 3 times since her dad likes to go to Walmart and Costco on almost a daily basis. He is bored and wants to go out (84). He lives with us but has brought home a fair share of sicknesses. Worse than having a kid in grade school. Vaccinations didn't help any of us.

--Simon
1993 8v92TA #312
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