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I hope this fits here.
I have a lean right, side high in travel mode. It's not just the front or rear its both about 1.5" higher than the 11.5" it is supposed to be to the fender supports.
Any ideas where to start looking for answers?
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Yes look at the adjustment of the high side ride height valve. The vertical rod is attached to a boss just on top of the drive axle. The vertical rod attaches to the horizontal rod of the hcv with a rubber “P”. There will be a small hose clamp at the bottom of the “P”. Loosen the hose clamp to move the vertical rod in the “P”. The rear hcv’s control the side to side heights. Move the “P” on the vertical rod in the direction you wnt to move the coach. Retighten the hose clamp when finished.
You have to be under the coach to do this and you are messing with apparatus that controls the coach height. Dont even think about it without proper support for the coach.
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my experience is that if the front is leaking on one side, it will take the rear down some as well. same for leaking rear will take that side front down. in other words, it could be just one corner dropping
when my front drivers side was going down, it would take the rear down as well.
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I was able to get into a shop yesterday. An hour an a half later the the lean is gone.
I don't know why or how the lean started.
What we did was adjust the length of the vertical push rods that connect to the lever arm of the HCV.
I think on a side note if any one is having driving issues I suggest the first place to start is the ride height.
Newell is very specific on this point and my experience in the last two days is ride height changes everything.
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Yes! Because a very slight change on the front ride height significantly changes the toe in value.
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I have many hours experience setting up race cars and test driving them. We would make tiny changes to toe, camber, corner weights. All of this on 100" or so wheel base. Not 25' wheel base systems. Quite amazing how that long lever acts on the from end.
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Richard, did you say if you wanted to raise a side you would move the P up on the bar? I need to raise my drivers side rear just a little bit.
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Yes. Move the P in the direction you want the coach to move. To check ride height ALWAYS lower the coach to below travel height and allow it to raise in travel mode to ride height. The temptation is to raise the coach for access and let it settle to ride height. Because the valve has some hysterisis, it will not settle to a consistent height. You can spend frustrating hours adjusting the ride height if you don’t follow the method above.
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Perfect. Thanks!
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I can confirm that when setting ride height. After making an adjustment to the length of the vertical rod. lower the coach and then re-engage the ride leveling system.
I did both yesterday and having the HCV lower the coach always resulted in goofy heights.
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