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California CARB / Out of State LLC
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(10-07-2024, 07:00 AM)Sea Note Wrote:  A talkative fellow in an older Country Coach with California plates parked next to me in Moab mentioned that he wouldn't be able to renew his tabs because his diesel engine was manufactured before 2010. That got me thinking, which got me researching, and what I found has me scratching my head. As I read it, as of 2024 California is requiring that all heavy vehicles (including RVs) with diesel engines be California CARB (think EPA) compliant, which means 2010 or newer engine with all the bits working, subject to narrow exceptions.  One exception is to limit travel in California to 1,000 miles per year (with lots of documentation requirements). Another is a general exemption for out-of-state RVs that are never used for commercial purposes, so no problem if a Newell with pre-2010 power is personally owned by someone residing outside of California -- but what about coaches owned or registered by a business (Montana LLC or otherwise)? I have thoughts (not good ones) but would value insight from anyone who has taken a deep dive on this as I suspect that ignorance won't cut it when the plate reader returns a business as the owner and the blue lights start flashing and I would want to know before getting turned away and having travel plans disturbed (or worse). 

I see that the underlying issue was addressed in a thread in 2021 but it is not up to date and doesn't address the ownership issue.

Respectfully submitted,

db

California doesn't make it easy to be compliant by there lack of transparency and information available on this topic. At this time you do not have to make a California registered motorhome 2010 compliant. You do have to register it with the CTC-VIS (Clean Air Truck new mandate) and pay the $30 fee, but there is additional information that you provide to a different place to validate that it is an actual motorhome and then it is exempt from this regulation once they confirm that it is an actual motorhome. 

Motorhomes registered in other states do not have to do any of this, but if they are licensed and registered commercial; as I read it they do have to be compliant.

Ron & Jennifer Ward
2003 Newell Show Coach #643 (Racer Bus) Triple Slide, DD 60
Visalia, CA

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California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Sea Note - 10-07-2024, 07:00 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by cwl1979 - 10-07-2024, 08:33 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Sea Note - 10-07-2024, 08:46 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by cwl1979 - 10-07-2024, 08:52 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by arcticdude - 10-07-2024, 10:45 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Sea Note - 10-07-2024, 11:49 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Jack Houpe - 10-08-2024, 04:25 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by BusNit - 10-08-2024, 07:15 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Wardworks - 10-08-2024, 07:22 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by cwl1979 - 10-08-2024, 08:38 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Wardworks - 10-08-2024, 12:34 PM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Jack Houpe - 10-08-2024, 07:50 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Wardworks - 10-08-2024, 11:18 AM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by Sea Note - 10-08-2024, 05:26 PM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by arcticdude - 10-08-2024, 07:33 PM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by cwl1979 - 10-08-2024, 08:12 PM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by arcticdude - 10-08-2024, 08:29 PM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by cwl1979 - 10-08-2024, 09:58 PM
RE: California CARB / Out of State LLC - by cwl1979 - 10-08-2024, 10:03 PM

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