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Identify Generator - [email protected] - 01-10-2024

I am helping the gentleman in France with his 1991 Newell. This was purchased and imported by Puegot’s racing team and was used for many years by them. 

So he is having issues with the generator, it will not start. I have gone through some troubleshooting with him, but we are trying to identify the engine. It has a tag that says Universal Oshkosh, Wi on it with some ID numbers.

I will attach the photos that he has provided me so far and maybe someone else has this generator. 

               

Thanks for any help.

He is 4 hours away from the bus and had left before I had asked him to try to see if he could find any more numbers on the engine.

RE: Identify Generator - BusNit - 01-10-2024

There should be a mechanical fuel rack that is held by a 12v solenoid. If it cranks but won't start, he can try cranking it and manually holding the solenoid to see if it will stay running. Once that part is over then the next will be to see if the solenoid is getting power and if it is perhaps the solenoid needs replacing. If it does run but won't shut off, he would have to pull on the rack solenoid to stop the fuel and the generator will shut down.

These are my simple quick checks. (Of course there's fuel filters and the like to check too)

RE: Identify Generator - [email protected] - 01-10-2024

(01-10-2024, 05:14 PM)BusNit Wrote:  There should be a mechanical fuel rack that is held by a 12v solenoid. If it cranks but won't start, he can try cranking it and manually holding the solenoid to see if it will stay running. Once that part is over then the next will be to see if the solenoid is getting power and if it is perhaps the solenoid needs replacing. If it does run but won't shut off, he would have to pull on the rack solenoid to stop the fuel and the generator will shut down.

These are my simple quick checks. (Of course there's fuel filters and the like to check too)

Yes we have been over the fuel rack and the fuel system. He has fuel to the injection pump but it’s not passing the pump. He has verified the shut off solenoid is working properly. We think the rack inside may be stuck. We are just trying to figure out what engine it is to find info on the injection pump.

RE: Identify Generator - HoosierDaddy - 01-10-2024

Looks like a marine engine

https://www.westerbeke.com/traditionaldieselgenerators.htm

RE: Identify Generator - HoosierDaddy - 01-10-2024

(01-10-2024, 09:37 PM)HoosierDaddy Wrote:  Looks like a marine engine. I believe Westerbeke located in MA bought Universal.

https://www.westerbeke.com/traditionaldieselgenerators.htm


RE: Identify Generator - [email protected] - 01-11-2024

(01-10-2024, 09:42 PM)HoosierDaddy Wrote:  
(01-10-2024, 09:37 PM)HoosierDaddy Wrote:  Looks like a marine engine. I believe Westerbeke located in MA bought Universal.

https://www.westerbeke.com/traditionaldieselgenerators.htm
Yea that is what my searches seemed to keep leading me to Westerbeke. 
The gentleman is headed back to the bus today and is going to try to get more pictures of the generator.

RE: Identify Generator - folivier - 01-11-2024

Like it's frequently said "no Newells are the same". Universal generators were probably more available in Europe so Peugeot spec'd this generator when it was built.
Westerbeke like Dean said should have some info on it. But like any other diesel it needs air and fuel to run. Bestgenman (Gordon) should have some tips also. Good luck!

RE: Identify Generator - [email protected] - 01-11-2024

(01-11-2024, 06:18 AM)folivier Wrote:  Like it's frequently said "no Newells are the same". Universal generators were probably more available in Europe so Peugeot spec'd this generator when it was built.
Westerbeke like Dean said should have some info on it. But like any other diesel it needs air and fuel to run. Bestgenman (Gordon) should have some tips also. Good luck!
Yes, we have figured out that the injectors are not getting fuel, by cracking the injector lines. So we are thinking the injection pump is stuck. Just looking for more information on the pump so we know how the shutdown works and the rack inside. I suspect the rack is stuck from sitting. Some engines have the solenoid pull in to run and some only are pulled when they shut down.