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Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Dhead - 02-07-2023
I went to take my coach out for a look at my rear camera last month and the passenger rear side was down. I limped in and the guys in Sanford were not capable of trouble shooting, so I limped it back home to Titusville. Now the 3 bags are down completely. I will talk to Newell this afternoon. Not sure if I'm capable, and unsure if there is anyone mobile that knows Newells. More to come...
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Richard - 02-07-2023
Chris at Precison Coach in Zephryhills may be able to help you.
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Latitude 28 - 02-07-2023
Dave,
Give Chris Jones with Precision Coach in Zepher Hills, Fl a call (813) 997-0696. He knows Newells other Gurus, myself included, have used him for work on their coaches.
I typed too slow....sorry for the double dip.
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Dhead - 02-25-2023
(02-07-2023, 10:42 AM)Latitude 28 Wrote: Dave,
Give Chris Jones with Precision Coach in Zepher Hills, Fl a call (813) 997-0696. He knows Newells other Gurus, myself included, have used him for work on their coaches.
I typed too slow....sorry for the double dip.
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Does anyone have info on the correct bags for a 2009 Newell with the ZF suspension and Cat engine. Newell asked me to take pictures and try to find any markings. Parts say they don't know (I was stunned).
I'm hoping someone has info. I have an appointment to get new bags 3/21. At 66 years old I can't do this kind of work anymore - just had 2 stents installed last month. When I get this coach back up its going up for sale...
Dave Head
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - bikestuff - 02-25-2023
Dave,
I know that airbag problems can be frustrating…but three bags failing at the same time would be a real coincidence.
More likely something in the air system. Which bags are leaking down?
Did you talk to Chris? He might be able to help.
Bill
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Dhead - 02-25-2023
(02-25-2023, 10:01 AM)bikestuff Wrote: Dave,The three passenger side rear bags are completed deflated. One for the duals, one for the middle and one for the tag. Valid control. The rear has a 5 pack. I'm calling Chris in the morning, and then the Valid folks.
I know that airbag problems can be frustrating…but three bags failing at the same time would be a real coincidence.
More likely something in the air system. Which bags are leaking down?
Did you talk to Chris? He might be able to help.
Bill
Dave
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Dhead - 02-26-2023
Dhead
(02-25-2023, 10:01 AM)bikestuff Wrote: Dave,The three passenger side rear bags are completed deflated. One for the duals, one for the middle and one for the tag. Valid control. The rear has a 5 pack. I'm calling Chris in the morning, and then the Valid folks.
I know that airbag problems can be frustrating…but three bags failing at the same time would be a real coincidence.
More likely something in the air system. Which bags are leaking down?
Did you talk to Chris? He might be able to help.
Bill
Dave
One of my very good friends brought his cousin who just got certification for working on RVs - he completely understood the Valid system. Even though my engine batteries are done and the coach batteries nearly done (2 8Ds in hand, 6 on the way), we were able to trouble shoot the Valid 5 pack for the back. I have a bad solenoid for the right raise. So in a week or so we should be able to get it up and then see if any of the bags of bad... Thanks for everyone's input. I will keep you apprised...
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Dhead - 02-26-2023
So I did some under the coach review (it can't get any lower...) - First I wanted to check the air tanks. The large tank dripped 1 oil drop. The first small center tank spat out a few drops under pressure. The middle tank put out close to 2 tablespoons of water and some green goop - say 1/2 a teaspoon. The farthest back tank spat a few drops. I made sure all four tank drains were well closed.
Then I checked the air bags - low and behold there was data on the inside of the bags: The tag axle uses a V1E25 AirCruise Vibracoustic Truck Bus Air Spring W01-095-0021 Conti 661N. Readily available on Ebay - 100.00 and change. The front and back bags for the axle are Conti 782N and I think I will have to have Newell find them or a substitute.
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - hypoxia - 02-27-2023
One of my very good friends brought his cousin who just got certification for working on RVs - he completely understood the Valid system. Even though my engine batteries are done and the coach batteries nearly done (2 8Ds in hand, 6 on the way), we were able to trouble shoot the Valid 5 pack for the back. I have a bad solenoid for the right raise. So in a week or so we should be able to get it up and then see if any of the bags of bad... Thanks for everyone's input. I will keep you apprised...
I'm curious, is it a 5 pack or 6 pack? I have not seen a 5 pack. Also, is the solenoid bad or is the coil on the solenoid bad? I think you will find the coil to be a Hydraforce 4301512 which are readily available, I carry spares of them. You can check resistance through them or just move the coil from one valve to the next. You may be interested in this thread about the 6 pack valves.
RE: Passenger rear air bags down - 2009 Newell - Dhead - 02-28-2023
There is now a lady working in Parts - Morgan is no longer there. I got the last solenoid, and it is a Hydroforce for $28.28. I looked on line and found the place you did - $22.00, so I will order two more. They were prepping to send me the whole 5 pack and I said NO, that would be pricey... Hopefully I can get the bags up. If the Conti 782N drive axle bags are leaking I may have a long wait. Newell has not been able to get them for like 4 months.
https://www.hydraulicstore.com/hydraulic/valves/hydraforce-cartridge-valves-and-coils/coils/4301512-hydraforce.html.
Here are the pdf's for the Valid system for the 5 pack...
